Chicxulub Crater Forum: Is the Chicxulub crater the K/T boundary killer ......or Not?

Hans Christian Andersens fairy tale, "...the New Clothes of the Emperor"

"But he has no forams on at all,” said a little child at last. “Good heavens! listen to the voice of an innocent child,” said the father, and one whispered to the other what the child had said. “But he has no forams on at all,” cried at last the whole people. That made a deep impression upon the emperor, for it seemed to him that they were right; but he thought to himself, “Now I must bear up to the end.” And the chamberlains walked with still greater dignity, as if they carried the train which did not exist."
... De waarheid is nooit precies zoals je denkt dat hij zou zijn..."

(Johan Cruijff)

Updated: November 8, 2007 Geological Society forum Go here to other debates The Chicxulub drilling project

And, here, what Dutch newpapers have to say (in dutch!)

See also Gerta Keller's Webpage!

More Links to interesting stuff

Parallel discussion :Tyberg-Keller, Stinnesbeck

Parallel discussion interludeMarcus Hartings complaintsSmit's answer to M. Harting

The great 2003 WWW Chicxulub debate went in leaps and bounds, here an effort to get everything in chronological order. .........first on CCnet, then on the Forum of the Geological Society, then back to the CCnet (to be posted)

Chronology

Title

Comment

Local links, documents

links to Source

April 6, 2003

THE KT TRANSITION AT YAXCOPOIL-1 DRILLHOLE.

Keller launches abstract at the EGS/EUG/AGU assembly in Nice, at the Chicxulub drilling Union session

click here for pdf

click here for abstract in the abstract volume

September 26, 2003 (A)

"WHAT KILLED THE DINOSAURS? GERTA KELLER REKINDLES K/T CONTROVERSY"

Keller launches a press release from Princeton, which is picked up by Cambridge Conference Network (CCnet) of Benny Peiser:

(short) and (here) long local version

click here for CCNet online version

Oktober 3, 2003

CHICXULUB IMPACT PREDATES THE K-T BOUNDARY MASS EXTINCTION

Keller et al paper 2004 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences

click here for local pdf

Click here for PNAS online version

Oktober 9, 2003 (B)

"CHICXULUB IMPACT CRATER AND THE K/T MASS EXTINCTION, REVISITED"

Smit replies on Keller (A):

click here for local version

click here for CCNet online version

November 2, 2003 (C)

CHICXULUB - THE NON-SMOKING GUN

Keller replies on Smit (B),

click here for local version

click here for CCNet onlineversion

November 1, 2003

CHICXULUB - THE NON-SMOKING GUN

The discussion is transferred to the Forum of the Geological Society. Same title, but different paper.

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

November 12, 2003

AND YET.....IT SMOKES !!

Smit replies to Keller's opening statements on the Geolsoc Chicxulub forum

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

November 18, 2003

DID THE CRETACEOUS WORLD END WITH A SINGLE BANG, OR MANY SMALLER ONES?

Keller replies on the reply by J. Smit

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

November 25, 2003

STILL SMOKING !

Smit replies a second time

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

December 8, 2003

OLD EVIDENCE, PARTIAL INTERPRETATION

Keller replies again (round three!) in Four Chapters!

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

December 8, 2003

(A) MULTIPLE SPHERULE LAYERS

Chapter (A), lots of myths

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

December 8, 2004

(B) SILICICLASTIC ROCKS AND THE MYTH OF IMPACT-TSUNAMIS

Chapter (B) irreproducible multiplication of burrows and disconformities

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

December 8, 2004

(C). CHICXULUB - YAXCOPOIL-1

Chapter (C), the Full Monte of the Yaxcopoil-1 core, total confusion of dolomite crystals and forams

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

December 8, 2004

(D) CONCLUSIONS

Chapter (D) twenty-five arguments - all easily countered

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

January 5, 2004

NOT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE HOLDS UP THAT CHICXULUB IS OLDER THAN THE K/T BOUNDARY

Smit replies to the foursome by Keller

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

January 10

SMITTEN WITH FAILED IMPACT-TSUNAMI THEORY

Keller's last reply (as with all comments and reply, she gets that last): It is all about courtroom tactics, not science

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

January 25

THE CHICXULUB DEBATE - WHAT NEXT?

closing statement by Keller

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

January 25
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THE DEBATE HAS ENDED…FOR NOW!

closing statement by Smit

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GeoSoc debates (to reappear soon here)

DEBATES AND CONTROVERSIES ON THE CRETACEOUS TERTIARY (K/T) BOUNDARY