Updated: March 1, 2024 The Great Chicxulub Debate, (2004)
on the Geological Society archived debate pages >>here<<
a local copy >>here in progress<<
DISCUSSIONS, DEBATES and CONTROVERSIES ON THE KPG BOUNDARY AND THE CHICXULUB CRATER

Over the years, any theory concerning the cause(s) of the mass-extinctions at the KPg boundary has been criticized and attacked both friendly and unfriendly. Such is often the case in high-visibility science, and the Extinction of the Dinosaurs is in that respect in category 1 !

On these pages the KPg boundary debates are treated in a sort of chronological order. 
I found myself often in the middle of these arguments. Over emails, conference sessions, etc. So I am, I wholehartedly admit, not entirely un-biased. I try to be as objective as possible, but sometimes you can just hear my teeth grinding from these pages!

Initially, early in the 70's, the discussions centered on gradual vs catastrophic extinctions, parallel to the discussions between phyletic gradualism and the punctuated equilibria of Eldredge and Gould. Most Vertebrate paleontologists opposed the idea of a sudden extinction. See papers by Archibald, Sloan and Van Valen. On the other hand most micro-paleontologists, especially specialists on nannofossils and planktic foraminifers like Hans Peter Luterbacher and Isabella Premoli Silva, embraced the idea quickly.

Arguments for a catastrophic extinction have been brought forward since Schindewolf in 1954 (see also Newell, 1952). O. H. Schindewolf, like G. K. Gilbert, Had an opinion about almost every geological subject, so also about mass-extinctions.

Summarizing, the opposition against a single asteroid impact causing a mass-extinction usually stems from a single aspect of the whole KPg impact-extinction theory that -according to its proponents- is not in agreement with the theory and therefore would invalidate the whole theory. I will try to defuse such a simplistic attempt to defuse he whole of the impact extinction theory.

After all, we all want to now what is really going on!

1) The Officer and Drake story. Starting in 1983, Charles Officer and Charles Drake published a series of papers challenging the notion of a sudden transition and a sharp iridium spike.
2) Gerta Keller controversies

a) Gradual extinction (1988)
b) Multiple impacts
c) Chicxulub impact preceding the KPg boundary mass-extinction
d) Dolomite crystals and planktic foraminifers
e) Deccan traps and the KPg boundary
f) Keller-Smit debates online first CCnet, then geological Society
g) Other, short issues

The CCnet and Geological Society Chicxulub debate Keller-Smit
Such internet debates have a history of broken links and disappearances, servers go out of service and providers bankrupt etc. So I keep here >>here<< a local copy of all these debates, in chronological order. Hopefully this debate remains on the Vrije Universiteit website for many years!
CCnet debate Januari 2006 On.......foraminifers >>here<< Local copy
What the BBC Horizon film did not show.... >>here<<
Comments on Keller's papers about the Chicxulub impact preceding the KPg boundary mass extion by 300.000 years >>here<<
Dolomite or foraminifers in the Yaxcopoil-1 core? >>here<<
Those Foraminifers from the Yaxcopoil-1 core should be tested! >>here<<
Yaxcopoil-1 critical core-segment from 794.11-794.60 m. >>here<<

And, here, what Dutch newpapers have to say (in dutch!)

See also Gerta Keller's Webpage!

More Links to interesting stuff

I'VE GOT A BONE TO PICK WITH YOU, SAY FEUDING DINOSAUR EXPERTS (from the Observer)

NO DINO BONES ABOUT IT: DEBATE ALIVE AND KICKING (USA Today Kicks in

See what the Economist (fri 7 Nov) Has To Say

The New York Times likes triple impacts

Parallel discussion :Tyberg, Keller, Stinnesbeck >>here<<

Parallel discussion Marcus Hartings >>here<< , and Smit's >>here<< answer to M. Harting

home DISCUSSIONS, DEBATES AND CONTROVERSIES ON THE CRETACEOUS PALEOGENE (K/Pg) BOUNDARY
Dual layer
DECCAN TRAPS
 
 
 
 
 
 
REFERENCESTOP
Keller, G., Adatte, T., A., Z. B., and D., S., 2007, Chicxulub impact predates K-T boundary: New evidence from Brazos, Texas: EPSL, v. 255, p. 339-356.
Peter Schulte, R. P. S., Henk Brinkhuis, Agnes Kontny, Philippe , and Claeys, S. G., Jan Smit 2008, Comment on the paper: ”Chicxulub impact predates K-T boundary: New evidence from Brazos, Texas” by Keller et al. (2007): EPSL, v. 269, no. 3-4, p. 614-620.
Archibald, J. D. and L. Bryant. 1990. Differential Cretaceous-Tertiary extinctions of non-marine vertebrates: Evidence from northeastern Montana. In V. L. Sharpton and P. Ward (eds.), Global Catastrophes in Earth History: An Interdisciplinary Conference on Impacts, Volcanism, and Mass Mortality. Geological Society of America, Special Paper v.247, p.549–562.
Sloan, R. E., Rigby, J. K., Jr., Van Valen, L. M., and Gabriel, D. L. 1986. Gradual dinosaur extinction and simultaneous ungulate radiation in the Hell Creek Formation. Science 234: 1173– 1175.
L. Van Valen and R. E. Sloan 1977. Ecology and the Extinction of the Dinosaurs. Evolutionary Theory, v. 2 p.37-64.
H.P. Luterbacher and I. Premoli Silva, 1964 LIMITE CRETACEO-TERZIARIO NELL'APPENNINO CENTRALE, Riv. Ital. Paleont. v.70p.67-128.
O.H. Schindewolf, 1954, Tektonische Triebkrafte der Lebensentwicklung? Geol. Rundsch v.45, p.1-17
N. D. Newell, 1956, Catastrophism and the geological record, Evolution, v.10, p.97-101.
 
 
BRAZOS RIVER CONTROVERSIES
GSA Philadelphia 2006: Comments on the new Brazos cores >>here<<
>Comment and Reply< on Keller et al 2007 in EPSL by Schulte et al, 2008 2008 >>here<<
Session about Chicxulub in the GSA annual meeting 2006 in Philadelphia
Burrows and controversy
Burrows as argument for prolonged deposition
 
Tony Ekdales open letter 1994 about trace fossils in the Mimbral outcropwith comments by Thom Roep (+1998)